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spidangular
02-22-2016, 01:11 PM
I recently switched to African cichlids, but I couldn't bear to part with my group of endlers. So into a spare tank in the basement they went. I first picked up the endlers at my first semi-annual auction probably four years ago. I think they were n-class endlers that Pierre had brought. In a very rookie move I added a couple of Guppys that a coworker had said had some interesting patterns once they matured. I had seen some nice mixes online... After about one or two generations of mixing I removed all the Guppys. I'm down to one male and five or six females. They've been in a tank with Angel fish for the past year so there haven't been any make past the first few wiggles of life for a year and I'm interested in how the next generation is going to turn out.

After switching to Africans and sticking the endlers in the basement in a quarantine/endler/whatever/ugly tank, I removed the Anubis from the African tank and threw them in the endler tank until I figured out what I was going to do with it, maybe put it back in the tank with the cichlids during a re-scape.

Then it occurred to me "well if I have this tank and plants (and buckets of different substrate) down here then I might as well make it nice to look at." Also the floating horn-wort stuff was making it hard for the endlers to find their food.

Bemoaning the fact that there was still another tank in the basement, my wife asked me why I needed to keep the endlers. That's when It hit me... and I told her that the African cichlids upstairs are ornaments, but the endlers in the basement are my pets.

My pets.
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Before and after of tossing a white poster board behind the tank. I suggest all the rookies try it if there's nothing behind the tank. Makes the fish stand out.

I will update as the new batch of fry color up.

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cswain123
02-22-2016, 03:22 PM
Lol. Great post!

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Demonfish
02-22-2016, 03:56 PM
I use the black stuff for backgrounds, but you have to keep it dry or replace it.

Tangfan
02-22-2016, 04:31 PM
Ive been reading on a Frontosa site, that substrate/rock and background color can affect the way the Frontosa's appear. This is copied directly from the site and re-posted. I have not tried this myself, but have seen pictures of the person's fish, and they look amazing. He typically uses earth tones as backgrounds.

Quote is as follows.


Here's a summary of my experiences with substrate color:
Black substrate & black background with minimal earth tone boulders: super blue mode in fronts rarely see white stripes.

White substrate & black background with large earth tone boulders: super contrast mode in fronts: blacks super dark and whites super white and blue on fins glow.

Brown substrate & brown background with large earth tone boulders: super blue mode and some contrast. Darker blues more often but they are easier to see against the brown sand (vs. black sand).


This could possible be true of other fish and I would like to hear peoples thoughts. I know my Frontosa are over white substrate and they do appear to have "whiter" bands than many that I have seen.

Tropical
02-22-2016, 04:36 PM
Nice tank!

Frank, I think it depends on the fish. For example my bronze Cory fry I was raising, half where on play sand, the other on black sand. The ones on black sand where significantly darker, and had much darker and green color. While those on the sand where much more bronze....

Some fish will adapt to the colors around them, others won't , so it's really the background that makes the difference, and the lighting.

spidangular
02-22-2016, 04:49 PM
Yeah, truthfully, I didn't think to put the white poster board behind the tank until I was taking pictures and could see the paper side of the insulation and the studs of the basement wall showing through the tank.


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spidangular
02-22-2016, 04:52 PM
Here are some pictures of the endlers that I took before the genes got really mixed. Probably took them four years ago. Some of them may be pure or close to pure endler.

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spidangular
02-24-2016, 08:15 PM
Fry! Imagine that!http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/02/24/85ea2d8ab7949c25db91bedc627e3be1.jpg


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