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spidangular
12-08-2013, 11:27 PM
This will be my first tank journal. I will be upgrading from a 55 to a 180gallon tank.
I have not kept Africans, but i think it is time to start.

Quite an upgrade and a change of fish to boot. I will have a lot of questions as i go.
So far i have a verbal agreement on the tank, and am getting a steal of a deal on the tank and custom hood and stand. I have not seen it yet, and i don't know what kind of equipment will come with it.

It was set up as a salt water tank for about six months, and then taken down because the owner had to move. It has been eight years since it last had water in it. How long should i test the seals before i bring it in the house?

What is the likelihood that i need to reinforce my floor? The room that the tank is going in is an addition to the house and it is something else! Part of the floor in that room is on slab, but most of it is subfloor slightly raised off the slab. Placing the tank on the section that is on slab is not an option, and the only way to see how the subfloor is made and what kind of support it has is to rip it up from the top down. Should i?

Demonfish
12-09-2013, 12:04 AM
I would do a week-long leak test in the garage, but most people do 24 hours. If they are going to go, they usually do shortly after you fill them up. Put paper towel or something under it so you can tell if you have a little leak.

If the stand has a rectangle base and the house was built to code in the last 20 years. I wouldn't worry about the floor. If you think it was DIY job (like an enclosed porch) than maybe you could drill a hole, rent a camera stalk and take a look. But what is the worst that could happen? If it is only like 2 inches high and the tank causes it settle crooked, you'd have to drain the tank and replace the floor. If you rip it up, you'd have to replace the floor now and maybe even have a permit and an inspection. How ugly is the floor? Rip up just one piece and build a raised tank platform? Generally not a good idea to customize a place that way unless you are planning a staying a while.

If the tank sits on just a few feet you might get some dimples, especially if it gets wet.

With big tanks levelling is important. Take your time and get it right.

1500 pounds of water / 12 square feet is only 125 pounds per square foot, about a small person. If the floor doesn't wiggle when you jump up and down and the stand spreads out the weight, you should be fine..

spidangular
12-09-2013, 01:30 AM
I would do a week-long leak test.
I will.


If the stand has a rectangle base and the house was built to code in the last 20 years. I wouldn't worry about the floor. If you think it was DIY job (like an enclosed porch) than maybe you could drill a hole, rent a camera stalk and take a look. But what is the worst that could happen?

The addition was probably not within the last twenty years, might have been a DIY job, and I'm afraid of a joist breaking and the whole thing falls two inches all at once and the whole thing breaks apart due to the sudden jolt.



If it is only like 2 inches high and the tank causes it settle crooked, you'd have to drain the tank and replace the floor. If you rip it up, you'd have to replace the floor now and maybe even have a permit and an inspection. How ugly is the floor? Rip up just one piece and build a raised tank platform? Generally not a good idea to customize a place that way unless you are planning a staying a while.

If the tank sits on just a few feet you might get some dimples, especially if it gets wet.

With big tanks levelling is important. Take your time and get it right.

1500 pounds of water / 12 square feet is only 125 pounds per square foot, about a small person. If the floor doesn't wiggle when you jump up and down and the stand spreads out the weight, you should be fine..

I feel like I'm qualified to fly a Cessna and I'm trying to fly a Có130.

The floor is carpet. Thanks, you've given me plenty to think about.

ronv
12-09-2013, 09:52 AM
Is the carpet glued down? If not can you pull it up enough to see the plywood subfloor. Maybe you can get an idea where the floor joist are and which way they run from the nail pattern. The idea is to spread the weight over as many joists as possible. The long axis of the aquarium should be perpendicular to the floor joist. Does the stand have four legs that would create four "point" loads. If so you will need to put something under the legs to distribute the load. Can you tell if the wall that is next to where the tank will be is a "load bearing wall'? If so, it would have a foundation holding it up. Against that wall would be the ideal spot.

spidangular
12-15-2013, 12:27 PM
Is the carpet glued down? If not can you pull it up enough to see the plywood subfloor. Maybe you can get an idea where the floor joist are and which way they run from the nail pattern. The idea is to spread the weight over as many joists as possible. The long axis of the aquarium should be perpendicular to the floor joist. Does the stand have four legs that would create four "point" loads. If so you will need to put something under the legs to distribute the load. Can you tell if the wall that is next to where the tank will be is a "load bearing wall'? If so, it would have a foundation holding it up. Against that wall would be the ideal spot.

Yeah, I will have to pull up carpet and take a look at the floor underneath. The weight will be distributed relatively evenly, not on points. It is going In a room that is an addition so I have no idea of the quality of the construction of the floors... I may even pull up the subfloor a little.


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spidangular
12-15-2013, 01:44 PM
First shots, where it rests with the original owner.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/16/de7e8yte.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/16/uqaguvu7.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/16/yda2y4ag.jpg


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ChadRamsey
01-14-2014, 08:31 AM
how about an update on this project?

Mog Carns
01-14-2014, 12:16 PM
http://www.atlantaaquarium.com/showthread.php?8722-180-gallon-setup-what-s-it-worth

I think that is the update, unfortunately.

spidangular
01-14-2014, 09:19 PM
That is the update indeed. It was a choice between the critters I was going to put in the tank and the critters you see standing in front of it in the picture below.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/15/dababu5e.jpg
I get home from work at six-ish and bed time is 730. There has to be a better way of life.