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  • The "blue" shiner at the auction

    Scientific name " Notropis chrosomus"

    Common name in the US is alabama rainbow shiner.

    CHARACTERISTICS: Notropis chrosomus is a robust, moderately compressed minnow species with a slender peduncle and short fins. A black lateral band extends from the gill opening to the tail. Breeding males are quite beautiful, with a light reddish purple stripe above the lateral band and iridescent violet flecks along the back and the dorsal, pectoral, and caudal fins. The sides below the purple stripe are iridescent powder blue, changing to silver on the venter. The dorsal and anal fins have bright red spots in the center of the front rays. The dorsal half of the eye is bright red. In both sexes, small breeding tubercles cover the head and a large part of the body (Swift, 1970).

    HABITAT AND BIOLOGY: This species is typically found in small, low-turbidity headwater streams flowing over gravelly and sandy riffles and pools. Spawning occurs from April through June or July, frequently over gravelly nests constructed by fish species of the genus Nocomis or Campostoma; we have observed rainbow shiners spawning over Nocomis mounds in Little Schultz Creek, a Cahaba River tributary in Bibb County in early May. With their reddish purple backs and neon blue pectoral fins, males are quite prominent in spawning aggregations. Like other Notropis, the rainbow shiner is most likely a drift feeder, consuming aquatic insects and plant material. Surprisingly, considering this fish's striking appearance, its life history has received little study.

    Tank: They are best in a tank with HoB filters and a few power heads. Neutral to slightly soft PH room temp tank no heater needed. CLean water, clean water, clean water!

    To breed them: make a "chub nest" put it under the outflow of a HoB filter and pull the "chub nest" every morning and move it to another tank under the outflow of a HoB filter.

    Food: Flake a mix of veggie flake and a high protein flake (earthworm) they eat mainly out of the water column not off of the top or pick the bottem though they can. Babies viniger eels, bbs, then crushed flake.

    John
    This article was originally published in forum thread: The "blue" shiner at the auction started by jrpatter View original post
    Comments 8 Comments
    1. Bowbass's Avatar
      Bowbass -
      Would love to know if anybody has any to trade or sell?
      Found that natives are a new area of interest and have aquired a few over the last year.
    1. jiterjit's Avatar
      jiterjit -
      agreed quite stunning fish i love us native fish!!!
    1. cswain123's Avatar
      cswain123 -
      Has anyone ever heard of a type of minnow being called a red horse? I looked up red horse fish but what google showed me was not the same. Red horses are what my grandpa called them and we caught them in a creek at his house. They look very similar to these, possibly the same.
    1. Mog Carns's Avatar
      Mog Carns -
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robust_Redhorse

      There was an exhibit of them at the Georgia Aquarium in the Georgia Explorer back section until it was replaced with the Shiners, Chubs, and Daces.

      Probably not what you were referencing.



      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_shiner

      Also called a Redhorse, though not related. Not a GA native speices, but does inhabit most of our water as a invasive.



      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxilus_coccogenis

      Some people get confused and call this one the redhorse minnow. Normally called the Warpaint shiner.
    1. cswain123's Avatar
      cswain123 -
      I know the red shiner one (Nocomis biguttatus) as a horny head. It could have been the minnows from that species but they were very red. Visible standing on the bank of the creek. There were some of the plainer ones too that looked more like the red shiners.

      I think I found it while exploring google images of the others though. Notropis leuciodus (the TN shiner).It's native to the SE United States and the breeding males are very red. This is probably what we used to catch. They are really pretty native fish as well.
    1. mountainman36's Avatar
      mountainman36 -
      find out which creek you/he fished in. there is a database somewhere with all the data on which fish species were found at what locality. DNR had a stream team set up and they sampled virtually every body of water in Georgia. If you call DNR with your question and a locality they probably can tell you. i also have a few books, Alabama fishes, and Fishes of Tennessee that show the species localities and habitats. there is no Georgia book, but the field guides do a decent job. Many Notropis species get red when they get into spawning colors. I caught some yellow fin shiners, Notropis lutipinis years ago in a creek near my apartment in Athens. awesome when they colored up.
      I used to electrofish and catch all kinds of stuff while i worked for the university, and studying fisheries......there are dozens of minnows that look pretty similar, so the locality is VERY important in identifying the fish to species.
      hope that helps
    1. incredibleSE's Avatar
      incredibleSE -
      According the the Outdoor Alabama site, you can catch AL Shiners in Floyd County.
    1. Mog Carns's Avatar
      Mog Carns -
      Keep in mind, any fish that the state of Georgia decides is a native is off limits without permit.